Yellow ($25.00) Plus, theres something about a grip adapter that makes it look right on an older gun. White ($25.00) (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. A better solution was obviously needed. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Colt, by comparison, is now offering a couple of throwback models for the collector/nostalgia segment. . Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. The Police Positive Special double action revolver was made in various calibers and variations from 1907 until 1973. I dont like their politics any more than the next guy, but they are the only game in town for very small businesses to take credit cards. I have actually carried with wadcutters in my gun and the Critical Defense standard pressure loads in my speed loaders. The PPS was the D frame. The 110gr FTX bullet used in the standard pressure and +P loads actually performs better at standard pressure velocities, and works a little better for reloads due to the pointed bullet. I would kind of like the heavier weight of Federals Nyclad 125gr for the reloads, but I dont think that round is available anymore. C $69.88. You might try modifying one for a Colt, to see if that works? Add to cart. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Website by Hudson, Model: ARMY SPECIAL, OFFICERS MODEL, OFFICIAL POLICE, PYTHON, TROOPER, There is 1 other variation of this product available, Sideplate Screw, Rear, Blued, New Reproduction, Grip Screw, Blued, New Reproduction (Standard Non-Target Models), Cylinder, .38 Spec, Old Style, Parkerized, Used Factory Original, Cylinder w/ Ratchet, .38 Spec, Old Style, Blued, Used Factory Original, Cylinder, .38 Spec, Stripped, Old Style, Parkerized, Used Factory Original, Cylinder, .32-20, Stripped, Blued, Used Factory Original, Cylinder, .38 Spec, Stripped, Old Style, Blued, Used Factory Original, Hammer, .38 Cal., Stripped, Used Factory Original. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. If you want one of those and don't see it on the Order page, it means that particular item is out of stock. The grip frames on these guns were universally small, and the grips (or stocks, in S&W parlance) almost looked like they were afterthoughts. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. While this is way off topic, the only .38 +P hollow points I shoot anymore are Federal HST 130gr. (I) Giveaway ends December 31, 2022. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. If anyone ever asked me to pick the two .38 Special service revolvers epitomizing the struggle for primacy in the LE market, they would have to be Colts Official Police (OP) and Smith & Wessons Model 10. L frame guns use K frame grips, so they should be taken care of as well. The Police Positive was extremely popular with police departments wanting a small, light weight revolver. The Colt Police Positive is a small-frame, double-action revolver features a six-round cylinder. If penetration is your priority, youll probably need to favor the heavier projectiles, unless youre willing to put up with extremely high pressures (and attendant recoil). Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: Grips for Colt Peacemaker, 1873, SAA, and New Frontier Single Action Revolvers. One of the most popular revolvers in history. Eligible for FREE shipping * . This is one of those things that youll either love or hate, depending on how the adapter fits your hand. The weight, in 4 trim was 30.5 oz. Colt 1911 grips Proffessional Target made of walnut wood. Unfortunately, the HSTs profile makes it a bad choice as a reload. Two customers have reported that a D adapter fits well on theirRugerSecurity/Service Six. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Better have a good grip, because it was going to move forward and out. This survives in the "Python". Lavender ($25.00) Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. New Hampshire Fish & Game Department, State Agency: Medallions are not included or installed unless ordered. These grips also fit the Colt Commando. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. FITTING OTHER MODELS: One customer reports that the K adapter (I think it was) fits at least OK on an old H&R 38 Hammerless model. Still, it might be the ideal system for someone else with different circumstances or preferences. No purchase necessary. Magnums were not universally adopted but if they were, many agencies required them to be loaded with .38 Specials as controllability, overpenetration and a shortened service life were all factors to be considered not to mention the PR controversies associated with magnum loadings. Item restrictions take precedence, and are noted above in red. I have more faith in them than some of the light JHPs. The tiny handles of wood or hard rubber used by Colts and Smith & Wesson on these early Hand Ejectors left a large part of the upper frame and recoil shoulder area completely exposed. The OP features a longer, stagier DA trigger pull than the M10, but not necessarily heavier. The in-line relationship between the trigger and finger would give better control and accuracy, particularly in the single-action fire that was popular at the time in the target shooting games. As a result, your grasp on the gun is shifted downwards on the frame. I have the impression that Vaquero grip frames may be different, at least some of them may be, but have no specific information. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. The M10 itself, incidentally, still exists in the S&W catalog in 4 service trim, along with its stainless version, the M64. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I do use Tyler grip adaptors on a couple of revolvers and have always considered them to be a good option for some applications. One customer has advised that a D adapter fits well on a Ruger Blackhawk his is a 44 Special, but I believe all the Blackhawk grip frames are the same and the photos he sent confirm it. The revolver could not be lifted straight up, but one just pushed forward and out it came! The Police Positive was very popular, and it and a short-barreled version called the Detective Special remained in production until the 1980s. The Pachmayr Presentation grips I linked to specifically list "Long, Square Butt D Frame (older large frame 1940-1971)". No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. WOuld be great for my police positive. So whod pick which of these two specimens and for what purpose? The M10s shrouded ejector rod was another plus for an LE sidearm. When the double action, swing-out cylinder revolver began to take shape in the late 1800s, it seemed like the designers had already used up all their energy by the time they got to the back end. Something went wrong. Chipped Grip . (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Pretty in Pink ($25.00) If you do not have a PayPal account and dont want to set one up, all I can suggest is that you find a friend who has an account and ask them to order for you. 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But it is not as wide as the larger Tyler model which is made for these larger frames, and so the top of the adapter does not overhang the sides of the frame the way a larger adapter would. However, in terms of differences, there are several. About the only choice is to find a custom maker who will make you a true custom grip, or use a grip adapter like rodfac shows above. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. They have also been checked and fit properly on a Detective Special with the short grip frame the lower clip engages the frame, and does not interfere with the segments of the grip panels that wrap under the bottom of the frame. This Colt Pocket Positive was Director Hoover's personal handgun. The 85 does not deliver great follow-up shots when firing the full Critical Defense +p rounds. The rate is for as many adapters as will fit in a single box (which is at least 10 but may be as many as 12). Grip Screw Nut Enlarge Image. (I) Giveaway ends April 30, 2023. #CPPD1 DISPLAY SAMPLES, Vintage Colt Police Positive revolver factory right grip black COLT marked, Vintage Colt Police Positive .38 Special Target Thumb Rest Target Grips & Screw, Factory Colt Original Caliber 32 S&W Police Positive Grips W/ Screw H85B AS IS, COLT GRIPS FOR PYTHON REVOLVER, OFFICIAL POLICE, I E FRAME WOOD NICE GIFT # 5, Colt "Police Positive" 32 Colt Revolver Parts: Grips (cracked). The adapters help to fill the hand a little more, but theres a lot more material in a good set of stocks, and I find that I get a more comfortable and efficient fit with them. 1 15/16" wide @ butt. ; ^ ). 2016 to 2023 RevolverGuy.com, All Rights Reserved. Orders $75 and over ship for FREE in Contiguous USA (see restrictions). Since Dfariswheel said your gun was made in 1922, it will not work. You can check this thread for for the discussion that accompanied the initial testing of the K frame adapters on various guns, and for photos of the fit on various K and N frame guns: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/200044-bk-grip-adapters-square-butt-k-frame-prototypers-wanted.html. For the best fit, as you tighten the grip screw, be sure to hold the adapter tightly against the wood grips and against the curve of the frame above and behind the trigger guard. These are the standard grips with the stylized "C" around the screw hole. The first was from a cherished box of the original Super-Vel Police 110-grain JHP we decided to sacrifice in the interests of ballistic curiosity. Does anyone know where I can get one or someone that can make one for me. (Be aware that shipping has to be to the address of the PayPal account holder.). Photos are available of a D adapter on these guns for those concerned about the exact fit. Anyhow, my finalists for a pocket revolver are a vintage S&W 649 .38 (stainless, no lock), an SP101 snub DAO hammer, or a Kimber K6S. Product #: 195380 Part Key: 39. Ace. Newer loads like the 135 gr. This dramatically reduces the wobbling that goes on through the trigger stroke. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: (Sorry about that.) And there is a post on a Taurus forum reporting that the K adapter fits fine on a Taurus 80. Still early enough to enjoy beautiful bluing, Magna grips, and a pinned barrel. Thanks for the tip-off on BK adapters! Its good to hear that the BK adapter worked so well for you! No purchase necessary. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. These adapters did the same job, however, and filled the gap behind the trigger guard. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Customers have reported (with photos) that they also fit properly on the Cobra (alloy frame Detective Special) and Agent (Cobra with a shortened grip frame.) are similar enough only subjective preference comes into play. FITTING FOR RUGERS:One customer has advised that a K adapter fits well on hisRugerRedhawk. The K-Frame models coming along (and in some cases, gone) in the last 50 years Models 15, 19, 13, 14, 66, 65 to name a few are all essentially Model 10s at their core. On thing about it, with all the different models, makes, styles out there, its like going to a buffeteverybody gets to choose what they want. Measuring right panel (vertical not diagonal) 3 7/32" long x 1 1/2" wide across center of screw hole. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Orange ($25.00) Nebraska Game & Parks Commission, State Agency: Gold Dot SB and the 130 gr. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. All are heavy guns but thats what works for me currently with a Taurus 85 with Crimson Trace Grips. Grips #3553G ($41.50), Screw Kit #7194 ($16.00), Colt Authentic Hardware Kit #7811 ($16.00), Triple K Manufacturing Co. View cart for details. This can happen because of imperfect alignment between the two clips. Colts OP (top) is built on the .41 caliber I-Frame. The early guns have a cylinder which is ~1.25 long, while the later, larger guns have a cylinder which is ~1.56 long. He also advised that the Beretta grips fit nearly perfectly on a Colt Bisley, so presumably a K adapter could be made to fit a Colt as well. The old Pachmayr units lacked finger grooves, but both the Tyler and BK Grips products incorporate a single finger groove on the front, to aid in control. For your reference since I already had copied this from their site to put in my ad; Gentlemen, thank you for the advice! I was gonna tell you I had a Tyler T-Grip that I took off my Diamondback you could buy. 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Charcoal Grey ($25.00) ), PAYMENTS ARE BY PAYPAL ONLY. Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving! Two Silver Medallions Installed #3251 ($24.00) Youre rightthe 85 is a solid gun, and probably the best Taurus ever. Hot Pink ($25.00) The Smith & Wesson grip adapter had two blued steel plates which fit under the stock panels, and held a rubber filler in place (which was secured to the plates by a screw) in the area forward of the front strap and behind the trigger guard. For more recent exchange rates, please use the. Red ($25.00) 226 Williams Ln. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Product Details Description Show Details Black plastic grip adaptor with retaining clip. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: Colt Police Positive 38 Special Revolver Parts Kit Chipped Grip The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Too many options in this cartridge offer pretty inconsistent performance from what Ive seen, which is a large part of the reason Ive moved away from carrying a .38. The Police Positive Special Is Approximately 1 13/16" Wide At The Bottom. The Colt Police Positive was an improved version of the New Police adding Colt's "Positive Safety" feature. The J adapter is supposed to fit properly on many Charter revolvers, and customers have reported success with the Undercover, Off Duty and Bulldog models. Im with ya, Ace. I amazes me how much grips/stocks can change a handguns character. Particularly when it comes to the .38 snub, you cant just grab any random hollow point load off the shelf at the store and assume its going to do what its supposed to. Excellent! Black Were talking primary sidearm here, not just as a backup or small-frame plainclothes tool. 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Hot Pink ($25.00) Built on Colt's "D"-frame, the Police Positive was regarded as a small-frame revolver. South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: You can check this thread for the discussion that went on during initial development of these adapters, and for photos of the fit on various J frame guns: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/195543-bk-grip-adapters.html, FITTING FOR S&W K, L and N FRAMES: The larger S&W adapter was made for square butt K frames. Then there was the fact the M10s grip was more user-friendly across a broader spectrum of hand sizes. The grip frame size and curvature on these guns is the same as the D frame, so the D adapter snuggles into place properly. That doesnt mean theyre better than splinter grips with an adapter, it just means they work better for me. The majority of .38 Special loads arent tailored for the snubs, and you wind up having a bullet that dances on the lower margin of the velocity envelope where youll get reliable expansion from a JHP. Orangish Brown ($25.00) Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: Smith & Wesson introduced their first grip adapter for the N-Frame guns around 1932, with a K-Frame version that followed around 1934. Made in various calibers and variations 1927 - 1969. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. The Smith and the Colt, in terms of operation loading, unloading, etc. dream revolver still had what looked like Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Great penetration. Both guns feature a hammer-mounted firing pin, square checkered-walnut butt, and, in deference to their service roles, fixed sights. (above, left) Winchester-Western 150-grain Metal Piercing (right) and the original Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Colt police Positive Grips $20.00 + $5.85 shipping Lot of 2 Pachmayr Grip Adapters for Revolvers , Unknown Fit $15.00 + $5.00 shipping Ace trigger screw and poly grip adapter-Colt D-frame, Agent Detective special Free shipping Hover to zoom Have one to sell? Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. two preeminent .38 Special platforms through most of the double-action revolver era. While in the past payments have been allowed by check or money order mailed to a PO Box, the demands of this business have made It increasingly inconvenient for the sole operator to continue doing that. No purchase necessary. Either gun served in both capacities admirably during their heyday. They seem to do a good job of splitting the middle ground and are a solid choice, I think. I just installed a BK grip adapter on my model 19 wearing Altamonts version of a S&W splinter stock. Purchase A PDF Download Of The GUNS Magazine March 2021 Issue Now! Grip Pin. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. They do NOT work with grips that fill in or cover any of the metal behind the trigger guard or on the front of the grip frame. Also like the Pachmayer (sp?) It was a break-front holster. This adapter filled the area where the frame rests on the middle finger, in a similar manner to the Roper-style target stocks that were starting to become popular in this era.

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