***************************** As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at Point Sur monitored undersea listening posts used to track Soviet subs. On April 10, 1963 (according to official reports) the Thresher, under the command of Lt. Is there a vast underground sea under California and Nevada with tributary rivers running in various directions? cost effective to use NSTMs than mechanical TBMs? They I wouldnt dough the possibility of 200 mile+ underground river and channels. The peak number of US submarine bases was during World War II, as the submarine was well suited for fighting in the vast Pacific War, often in enemy waters. The cruise missile submarine that was launched back in 1965, remained in operation for 23 years before the Soviets withdrew there Juliett-class subs. Well after Zorgon and me found that plasma nuclear reactor at Aristarchus on the moon Ill believe anything. This is his story. Williams continues: When he retired several years ago, in spite of about 10 years of intensive Naval study, the Navy had not gotten even a handle on their exacts and dimensions. concluded that nuclear subterrene tunneling machines (NSTMs) would The need for US submarine bases was created with the completion of the first submarine USSHolland launched in May 1897. In 1994, it ended its production mission and became Hawthorne Army Depot. Lake tahoe is 1600 feet deep and it would be interesting if anySEA SALTcould be detected in the water.. tunnel system. The Navys efforts to recover a lost hydrogen bomb off the coast of Spain that year and the loss of the attack sub USS Thresher three years before had brought new funding and discipline to deep submergence systems. Some of these responses appear to be knowledgeable sources. ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? (it is postulated by some that an ancient land-mass which some believe may have been connected to what is now California, broke off and sunk into the ocean during an ancient cataclysm Branton). In 1994, the facility received its current name of the Hawthorne Army Depot (HWAD). **********************. More thought-provoking images of tunnel boring equipment: this way the nuclear subterrene slices through the rock like a Mare Island, being a shipyard, also was not designated a submarine base. faded away. The Rock-Site concept also bore much in common with NASAs designs for underground moon bases. commissioned such a lengthy and detailed analysis of the cost of (b) formation of both All in all, she was the most advanced international submarine in the world at the time of her disappearance and would have been an ideal choice for a top-secret mission such as the exploration of the caverns mentioned by John Williams source. ahead of the advancing rock drill penetrator. Most of the entrances are too small for submarine investigation; and many that are large enough lie in waters that are too deep. careful reader will note that all of these patents were obtained by Seven submarines built by the Holland Torpedo Boat Company were stationed at Hamlet. Finally, the southern California location that was chosen for But. It also houses a guarded "Naval Undersea Warfare Center." This amazing lake has not one structure to support the locals enjoying a swim or some fishing, but does have some kind of base along its western edge. In the decades since Austins study, industry has created the tools need to realize his vision. During that period, Balaklava was one of the most secret residential areas in the Soviet Union. The USS Beaver was the first specially built submarine tender, completed in 1918. Then..the ONI removed the evidence of the crashed aircraft. [7] There are two different modes of transportation. The USS Holland was based at Hamlet's Holland Torpedo Boat Station, open from 1899 to 1905. [5], Due to the Japanese hostilities in China and the South Pacific in 1939 the US Congress approved plans for building submarine bases and seaplane bases at Dutch Harbor Alaska, Kodiak, Alaska, Midway Atoll, and Wake Island. 7. kerry@projectcamelot.org you for your help. later only a wild coincidence? Part of the Nevada National Security site, Area 6 is used by government agencies to test unmanned aircraft with sensors. This complex tracks thousands of satellites, missiles, submarines, and UFOs. Research and Development Administration just 21 days later, on 27 We were very close. Nuclear submarines arrive at bases for crew change, resupply and repairs. Much like dry caverns do, heights and depths vary a great deal and in some cases, two or more caverns or passageways pass over or under each other at different depths. underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys or "EBEs", and Do these tunnels connect to the NIDS Ranch in the Uinta Basin in NE Utah and to Dulce New Mexico? Maybe longer. A WELL-KNOWN U.S. nuclear submarine lost its way in these passages and disappeared forever. And it evokes a mystery one involving secret underground naval bases, high-tech submarines and Cold War nuclear brinkmanship. If it were 1600 feet deep that would put the bottom of the lake about 4600 feet above sea level. the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. Austin realized that even with mid-1960's technology, it would be possible to sink a wide shaft into the sea floor, seal and drain it, then use it as a staging area for further excavation. And yet a third patent was issued to the United States Energy It is noteworthy in the first place that the government Very interesting John. Well, they were using tunneling machines back in the mid-90s that could tunnel through a rock face at seven miles per day, that could cut through a rock face with high-energy impact lasers that could blow the nano-sized particles of rock so that there was no debris left, forming an obsidian-like core, and laying an inner core for unidirectional maglev trains that travel at Mach 2 to 2.8 underground between these very very powerful and organized cities. ************************************Another Post from John Lear : I remember going to the Grand Canyon caverns last year and they said it ran some 20 mile to Grand Canyon the Colorado. Write by: . Recent research on hardened missile basing concepts have proven various techniques for creating submarine-sized structures in hard substrates. for the simple reason that there would not be the tell-tale muck mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. I have no reason to doubt the man. Hawthorne is on the main Las Vegas-Reno highway and serves as Nevadas gateway to Yosemite and the eastern Sierra via the Pole Line Road (Nevada 359) connecting with US 395 and the Tioga Pass. Maybe those lost subs found passage to the inner earth and decided to stay there rather then come back or maybe they where captured who knows but its fun to think about it. This machine would also be capable of If so, then sry, 1982/83. Several books have been written var sc_security="2d1f75fb"; Underground Bases and be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs. ******************* I really think they where underground detonations for. He told me that the techs that worked in the tubes were called tubemoles. It covers the entire continental United States and extends through Central America and Brazil into Argentina. 3,693,731 dated Sept. 26, 1972). But lets assume that it might be true. If nuclear subterrenes actually exist (and I do not know if they do) their By January 1911 the Navy had 20 submarines built: Seven A-class submarine, Three B-class submarine, five C-class submarine, three D-class submarine, and two E-class submarines. Checking with gravity anomaly maps proved that there are large cavities under the ground in that area. The demand for submarine bases during World War 2 was so great that many specially built submarine tenders were built. If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. Tunnels: Babbitt. At In fact, his scientific background and reputation are impeccable. The cost hole liner. satisfied that the thing in question actually works! 290 N 116W. Your generosity When the BIG ONE finally hits, many scientists in the know believe that most of California will break off like a cold Hershey bar and slide into the ocean! It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. making a glass-lined tunnel of 40 ft. in diameter or more. produce and extend cracks in solid rock radially around the bore Another patent three years later was for: A tunneling machine for producing It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious recovery effort. Driving on interstate 40 I cant help but wonder how many undiscovered holes there are in the desert. Tehachapi Ranch- 4 saucer bases, Tecachapi Canyon has a new underground base which was finished in Sept. '95. In the early 1990s, a bunker detonated for no discernible cause unless it was provoked by a lightning storm the previous day. This map might help: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1479/flyingmranchatsauy1.png. There you have it: a tunneling machine that creates no muck, and leaves a smooth, vitreous (glassy) tunnel Austin foresaw that Rock-Site bases could be ideal for industrial uses such as fossil-fuel production and deep-sea mining. Lake Tahoe is 6200 ft. above mean sea level. Tram and gondola. subsequently carried out, when it was determined that it was more It covers the entire continental United States and extends through Central America and Brazil into Argentina. If they are, however, it may be that the glass-walled tunnels are is a transportation system connecting underground installations together. Williams explains that not all of the areas in question are actually resting or floating on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean cavities below the western U.S., and they are not limited to California, and many of them consist of very large water-filled aqua-systems. Below is a chart on which I have drawn two lines representing these channels between Monterey Bay and Hawthorne. Wonders how many disappeared, before it was fenced off? foot) tunnel were found to be possible using the NSTM as Note that the material sent to us for this article was written by someone of very high repute whose credentials I personally checked out.Due to an agreement with him, I cannot reveal his identity. There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth. of the regions of the West where there is rumored to be a secret Today it reads Naval Undersea Warfare Center. Austins dream remains both sober and dazzlingly novel. We could always tell when something was wrong with each other. Ive heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : http://www.monolake.org/, Topic started on 17-3-2007 @ 11:23 AM by allMIGHTY, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread273017/pg1, GO TO : http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg. It is said to be the largest such facility in the world. Lake Denmark, New Jersey, was blown off the face of the earth by a huge explosion at the naval ammunition depot there (in 1926), and Congress wanted to find some less valuable real estate for the new one. Such a (vitreous) lining eliminates, in most cases, the ****************** What do you think? USS Holland had a crew of one officer, and five enlisted men. The abstract describes: A tunneling machine for producing (We are deleting this section due to the possibility of undue stress and fear which may result from its disclosure. enables us to continue our work. Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. SCORPION. . about this activity. Desert Submarine Base? expensive and cumbersome problem of debris elimination and at 6. [8][9][10], The current US Navy fleet of nuclear submarines never need to be refueled. materials against the excavation walls to provide, when on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg, http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2002/Nov/Navy_Sets_Up.htm, http://www.ourhollowearth.com/VoyagetoHollowEarth.htm, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. Never to be found. USS Nevada (SSBN-733) is a United States Navy Ohio -class ballistic missile submarine that has been in commission since 1986. Just drive in; if there is a security guard on duty, just say Golf Course and youre in. But as history has proven time and again, even the weirdest fantasies have their real-life counterparts. pumping an equivalent amount of WATER into the ground to the amount of oil and water taken out, in order to keep the city AFLOAT!. An estimated NSTM prototype The underground Pasha Liman Base submarine base of the Albanian navy in the Adriatic coast, a secret military facility also built during the Cold War. Last Tuesday I drove from Reno to Las Vegas after attending the Bay Area UFO Expo. Maybe, for some reason, the Navy uses that underground ocean (actually its not an underground ocean its the same level as the rest of the Pacific, it is the land that is above water so to speak) to travel around. Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. a supporting excavation wall liner by deflecting the molten 5. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? the cost of mechanical TBMs, A.A. Mathews determined: Savings of 12 percent for the 4.73 The facilitys area 147,000 Acres (Leased/Owned) and .6M Sq. I have no reason to doubt the man. One enterprising firm servicing the offshore renewables industry has designed a remote drilling rig for planting monopile anchors on the seafloor, while others are developing entire subsea electrical grids. Did the A.A. Mathews study represent part of the It was redesignated Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant in 1977 when it transferred to Army control as part of the Single Manager for Conventional Ammunition. Dulce forms a lower point of a Triangle SSE from Uinta Basin and SE from Hawthorne. Support Project Camelot - make a donation: Thank Beginning in September 1930 and during World War II, 600 Marines were assigned to the facility. The town of Hawthorne, Nevada harbors a big 18-mile x 8-mile lake called Walker Lake. There are many rumors of secret Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. By applying well-understood principles employed for decades by the mining industry, Austin proposed that large bases could be constructed and operated anywhere suitable bedrock occurred in the ocean, at any depth. Facilities include 178 Buildings and 2,427 Igloos. showing the many undergro. For three and half years the two submarines operated out of Mare Island Naval Shipyard in San Francisco Bay for training and testing. National Lab is itself the subject of considerable rumors about Time to Google map some of these places and see if theres any strange things going on. The Air Forces development of underground silos, subways and central commands produced real-world hardware and experience with construction techniques. The depot began its existence as the Hawthorne Naval Ammunition Depot (NAD). liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it 35 20 118 40 35. Though quite far down ( + 70 kilometers), if it were an insulating layer ( some postulate water) and if some technology had been able to reach it, a way to traverse great distances by stealth would be feasible. The main base for the Northern Fleet is located in Sverdimirsk, Russia. The nuclear subterrene has an advantage over mechanical TBMs in that She refers to these caverns in the following words: Somewhere I got the idea that a big portion of Death Valley is located on a shelf of FALSE bedrock. By 1966 the two surges into outer space and inner space were at their flood tide. - Subterranean Bases Subterranean Bases ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. tunneling activities. Yes. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? demands indicate a potential cost savings of 850 million dollars planning for an actual covert tunneling project that was Estimates of cost and Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. That is why the Mega Search turned up NOTHING. He said it was "unusual that a commercial satellite would be overhead at just the right time" on a cloudless day. States. NORAD also controls many Monarch slaves who have ALEX, JANUS, ALEXUS endtime callback programming. United States F-class submarine were built by the Electric Boat in 1909. A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. Many underground chambers are as large as 50, x 100 '. I would very much like more information on this topic. Just north of Fort Ord. Would you believe Rand Corporation documents from 1972? bill@projectcamelot.org. Did the Navy ever actually pursue the Rock-Site concept at Point Sur or elsewhere? The There are 2 routes from Monterey Bay south of. In May 2005, the facility was included on the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure list, with closure being recommended. The problem is (temporarily) being rectified by water injectioni.e. Where is everybody? we asked the manager. According to our knowledge, the only nuclear submarines ever to disappear under mysterious circumstances were the U.S.S THRESHER and the U.S.S. USS. Topic started on 1-9-2007 @ 01:29 AM byJOHN LEAR : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1. diameters were: a) 3.05 meters (10 ft.) Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the Pacific Ocean that extends under California and Nevada. advantage for the NSTM results from the combination of. _____________________________. She then advised me that she should call the. The pictures appear to show a Type 093 nuclear-powered attack submarine enter a tunnel to an underground entrance located on Yulin Naval Base. Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. Mr. Lear The Gulf War brought more good times to Hawthorne, and the base now under civilian management is bulging more than ever with munitions. tell you, the U.S. Patent Office only issues the paperwork when it's Drew Thompson, a former US Department of Defence official, told CNN it was an unusual sight. the study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter mechanical earth detachment means and in which the heat required He was on Coast to Coast AM on 16 February 2007 : Hollow Earth Expedition, Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by ZORGON. Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. 4. And it evokes a mystery one involving secret underground naval bases, high-tech submarines and Cold War nuclear brinkmanship. The following progression illustrates the result through World War II: With more than 7,000 armed forces and civilian workers at the arsenal during the war, Hawthorne was the busiest Nevada boomtown in a generation. According to the information released both on the air on KVEG-AM and from other sources, the area is full of strange people wandering around in black suits. In 1994, the facility received its current name of the Hawthorne Army Depot (HWAD). In 1913 the F-class submarines were stationed at San Pedro, California and Naval Base San Diego. Babbitt. **********************************************. However, for variable formations and unfavorable She is the fourth ship of the U.S. Navy to be named for Nevada, the 36th state. The 1972 patent makes this clear. Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep, Manofsky said. Fulton class was followed by the Griffin Class in 1941, Aegir-class in 1943, Hunley-class submarine tender] in 1962, Simon Lake-class in 1964, L. Y. Spear-class in 1970, Emory S. Land-class in 1974, Emory S. Land Class in 1979. Where is everybody? we asked the manager. Another response was from an anonymous person who cited unpublished oil company seismographical, One thing which may be of interest in connection with Mr. Williams account was a statement which was made by a prominent California Bigfoot investigator by the name of Virginia Louise Swanson, who has done a, Somewhere I got the idea that a big portion of Death Valley is located on a shelf of FALSE bedrock. The underground. Hawthorne Army Depot is located in the west central part of Nevada close to the California state line. This 1975 patent further specifies that ************************************, More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the America's. The A.A. Mathews Construction melts the rock. + Tehachapi Ranch35 20 N., 118 40 W. 25 miles N.W. and Engineering Company of Rockville, Maryland produced a The Thresher was the LEAD SHIP or Flag ship in the worlds most advanced class of nuclear attack submarines. In the process of melting the rock the lithium loses She was designed to operate deeper and more silently than any of her predecessors and was also endowed with significant advances in sonar equipment, in noise reduction, and in fire-control. Just as intriguing is the fact that Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study. The distance is roughly about 212 statute miles. It is uncertain whether the retired Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity at the time. One wonders what might have happened had the Navy put its nuclear expertise to work drilling holes in the ocean floor. [6], The ship USS Wyoming (BM-10) built in 1902 was used as the first submarine tender. by means of hydrostatic pressure developed in the molten rock Theres very little hype in Austins report; the bulk of it is taken up with documentation of tunneling methods and mining operations conducted under the sea floor. Ubehebe Crater system contains several volcanic craters, cinder cones and ash hills, all relics from an explosive steam eruption about 2,000 years ago, when rising magma met an underground lake. shown in Illustration 41). least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned This report has a number of interesting SCORPION. The City of Hawthorne continues to blossom to the south of Walker Lake with restaurants and motels offering provisions, diversions, and accommodations for travelers. comprehensive report with two, separate, lengthy appendices, one 235 One of the monuments is an underground, formerly classified submarine base that was operational until 1993. Its a big desert with many possibilities. The heat is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor that circulates However, the depot was subsequently dropped from the BRAC list, and thus will continue to operate. Antar you just blew my mind! In 1928 directed the establishment of a Board of Officers to provide oversight of the storage conditions of explosives. large tunnels in rock by progressive detachment of the tunnel Melting Antarctica Ice Reveals UFO Underwater Base. 9. was involved in building an addition to the deep I love my husband very much. Most people think Im crazy when I say this, but I believe the Thresher was captured., I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off Boston harbor so either the Thresher DID sink there, off Boston harbor OR the government created an elaborate cover story of it sinking off the east coast when in fact it went through the Panama canal and disappeared near the west coast, or BENEATH the west coast or, IF the Thresher did disappear off of Boston harbor, then the nuclear sub that disappered in the aqua-caves of California may have been yet another possibly top secret submarine. There really wereand aresome strange ideas deep down in the sea. on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? More. Kings Bay is the main submarine base for the US Navy. Your tour ends at the Walker Lake Country Club, where a beautiful 9-hole golf course (open to the public) was the best-kept military secret in America for 50 years. (Excuse me if my directions are off, I have a very small map to look at and Hawthorne isnt even on the same page as Uinta Basin and Dulce. Would you believe Patents filed by Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Department of Energy for three Atomic TBMs? These bases One response was from a retired (conventional submarine duty? What is being passed off as the San Andreas Fault are large, unsupported chambers that are in the process of collapsing. The submarine tender refueled and resupplied the submarines. Fort Collins- base for Gray aliens 41. It was in this environment that C.F. ******************************************, Ubehebe Crater, Death Valley National Park. military tunnels in the United States. An underwater craft from another nation engaged one of our subs in combat under California or Nevada. It is uncertain whether the retired Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity at the time. various other covert goings-on. A number of patents U.S. Department of Energy. The three tunnel . trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Lake tahoe is 1600 feet deep and it would be interesting if anySEA SALTcould be detected in the water.. underground military bases in the United States. Point Sur is 600 feet of tough rock facing Pacific rollers that come 6,000 miles to pound the central California coast. simultaneously forming an initial tunnel wall support by nuclear powered, 2,000 degree Fahrenheit (1,100 Celsius) earthworm, results in a favorable benefit-to-cost ratio of 8.5. It was established in 1941. is of a shape and is propelled under sufficient pressure to or rather, WITHIN the lower slopes/cliffs of the Continental Shelf Branton). A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. A penalty of 30 percent was found One incident which tends to confirm the fact that California is in fact floating on the ocean was a story which made the headlines in recent years.

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